Comments on: Time to Grind it out! http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/ World Class Endurance Runner Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:10:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Speedgoat Karl http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6496 Speedgoat Karl Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:44:31 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6496 Craig, the reason I went after 100s is for that very reason. I Like to run 100s, I don't have to run as fast and I enjoy it more. There are definately other runners faster than I. Many are faster than I, but the perseverence of keeping up on banging out hundreds is tough. I thrive on the challenge of not knowing exactly how I feel when I stand on the starting line because I just ran one a few weeks earlier. Many runners won't do that because they are afraid of not performing at their highest level. Geoff proved others can do it at the Bear. We just have to accept the fact it may not be our best time. Will others follow my lead and chase my # of wins? Probably not, until they get closer. It's also true I've won a few 100s with very minimal comp, but that was never my objective going to these 100s. They were new courses and always singletrack or nice terrain. Running them blind makes them that much more of a challenge. Thanks for the kudos Craig! Cool! :-) Craig, the reason I went after 100s is for that very reason. I Like to run 100s, I don’t have to run as fast and I enjoy it more. There are definately other runners faster than I. Many are faster than I, but the perseverence of keeping up on banging out hundreds is tough. I thrive on the challenge of not knowing exactly how I feel when I stand on the starting line because I just ran one a few weeks earlier. Many runners won’t do that because they are afraid of not performing at their highest level. Geoff proved others can do it at the Bear. We just have to accept the fact it may not be our best time. Will others follow my lead and chase my # of wins? Probably not, until they get closer.

It’s also true I’ve won a few 100s with very minimal comp, but that was never my objective going to these 100s. They were new courses and always singletrack or nice terrain. Running them blind makes them that much more of a challenge.

Thanks for the kudos Craig! Cool! :-)

]]> By: Craig Redfearn http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6489 Craig Redfearn Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:28:31 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6489 And my comments on Godale started it all. Wynn does make some valid points. A friend of mine told me about the Kleckers (Derek Dippon - Wynn knows him personally) and they were able to accomplish some things on the pavement few would ever try. There are many specialists among us. Sure glad Karl is sticking to the 100s. In my opinion, "no one" will match what he has been able to accomplish on the trail. Some may beat him, but those same guys won't bounce back on a consistent basis and do it over and over. And my comments on Godale started it all. Wynn does make some valid points. A friend of mine told me about the Kleckers (Derek Dippon - Wynn knows him personally) and they were able to accomplish some things on the pavement few would ever try. There are many specialists among us. Sure glad Karl is sticking to the 100s. In my opinion, “no one” will match what he has been able to accomplish on the trail. Some may beat him, but those same guys won’t bounce back on a consistent basis and do it over and over.

]]> By: Speedgoat Karl http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6488 Speedgoat Karl Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:35:47 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6488 AT in a day, pretty cool, but kind of odd. With enough people, wouldn't that be easy? Granted, putting this together logistically must have been brutal, and hats off to the guys and gals that did that. Nice work. How about 4 guys leapfrog it in 3 weeks? HMMMM, there's an idea. I would say it was alot easier to put my adventure together than this one. Crazy shit. I wonder if Mr. Doyle approved it! "The Lung" is the man....or shall we say 4 lungs, his V02 max is almost twice mine, does that mean I have but one lung? :-) Wynn, it all means nothing really....alot of yack dickety doo da! Entertaining to say the least. AT in a day, pretty cool, but kind of odd. With enough people, wouldn’t that be easy? Granted, putting this together logistically must have been brutal, and hats off to the guys and gals that did that. Nice work. How about 4 guys leapfrog it in 3 weeks? HMMMM, there’s an idea. I would say it was alot easier to put my adventure together than this one. Crazy shit. I wonder if Mr. Doyle approved it!

“The Lung” is the man….or shall we say 4 lungs, his V02 max is almost twice mine, does that mean I have but one lung? :-)

Wynn, it all means nothing really….alot of yack dickety doo da!

Entertaining to say the least.

]]> By: Tim http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6487 Tim Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:05:01 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6487 http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2009/10/02.html http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2009/10/02.html

]]> By: Tim http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6482 Tim Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:29:44 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6482 This is a great dialogue. The slant towards trail running (at whatever speed) interest goes with the territory. This is Karl's site and he runs trails. Nice to see mention of The Lung, that's a new one! Honestly, anyone running at the elite level on any surface could and should be called the lung. On a note of interest, The Dartmouth Alumni Club ran the whole AT Saturday. Divided and conquered it, yes Mr. Doyle, conquered it. My friend, the alumni, had a 13 mile section somewhere in Maine. He said it was "unrunnable". Took him all day, I bet the Goat did it in a few hours. I very much hope the logistics work for another try. Kyle vs Killian, Ryan & Dathan vs The Africans, roads vs trails, pretzels vs peanuts just run! This is a great dialogue. The slant towards trail running (at whatever speed) interest goes with the territory. This is Karl’s site and he runs trails. Nice to see mention of The Lung, that’s a new one! Honestly, anyone running at the elite level on any surface could and should be called the lung.

On a note of interest, The Dartmouth Alumni Club ran the whole AT Saturday. Divided and conquered it, yes Mr. Doyle, conquered it. My friend, the alumni, had a 13 mile section somewhere in Maine. He said it was “unrunnable”. Took him all day, I bet the Goat did it in a few hours. I very much hope the logistics work for another try.

Kyle vs Killian, Ryan & Dathan vs The Africans, roads vs trails, pretzels vs peanuts just run!

]]> By: wynn http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6481 wynn Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:56:11 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6481 I hear ya Geoff in regards to roads, but I guess when I think of roads or maybe the misconception is "auto roads". Indeed those are usually dreadful almost all of the time especially if they are busy. However I consider roads to be gravel, paved/asphalt closed courses, back country roads, and my favorite being jeep/serivce roads with very little if any traffic at all and no canter. I really like race courses like this too, which mix in single track trail. I guess when you run on super rocky, rutty, narrow single-track like Superior Hiking Trail close to where i live, which is probably very similar to Massanutten trails, Alaska, etc.. Just a different kind of running. I know when I have not run on technical single-track in awhile because I get impatient and usually try and push to hard in areas that should approached differently. yeah I guess we have come full circle. how the hell did we get here? ha! what does it all mean! I hear ya Geoff in regards to roads, but I guess when I think of roads or maybe the misconception is “auto roads”. Indeed those are usually dreadful almost all of the time especially if they are busy. However I consider roads to be gravel, paved/asphalt closed courses, back country roads, and my favorite being jeep/serivce roads with very little if any traffic at all and no canter. I really like race courses like this too, which mix in single track trail. I guess when you run on super rocky, rutty, narrow single-track like Superior Hiking Trail close to where i live, which is probably very similar to Massanutten trails, Alaska, etc.. Just a different kind of running. I know when I have not run on technical single-track in awhile because I get impatient and usually try and push to hard in areas that should approached differently.

yeah I guess we have come full circle. how the hell did we get here? ha! what does it all mean!

]]> By: Speedgoat Karl http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6479 Speedgoat Karl Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:04:03 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6479 I think it started with "Good luck at Grindstone Karl" And here we sit 50 comments later. Oh yah, we forget to mention Dave Mackey downhilling. He's so smooth, it's scary. I did forget to mention with the Klecker clan that yah, if they had been runners only, and noone else to think about but themselves (in terms of running), they probably would have been faster. Sounds like they are pros at "time management". Definately the best husband wife duo! :-) Shall I start something new. I've been thinking about something, but am at a loss for words. I think it started with “Good luck at Grindstone Karl” And here we sit 50 comments later.

Oh yah, we forget to mention Dave Mackey downhilling. He’s so smooth, it’s scary.

I did forget to mention with the Klecker clan that yah, if they had been runners only, and noone else to think about but themselves (in terms of running), they probably would have been faster. Sounds like they are pros at “time management”. Definately the best husband wife duo! :-)
Shall I start something new. I’ve been thinking about something, but am at a loss for words.

]]> By: geoff roes http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6474 geoff roes Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:32:24 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6474 i'm just amazed with the tangents that this thread has gone off on. lots of interesting stuff here and where it's ended up has almost nothing to do with where it started. good stuff. i agree that the road stuff is at least as (or more) impressive than the trail stuff. i just don't understand why anyone would want to do it. i guess it's just not for me but I find very little pleasure in running on the roads. i just don't see the point in running/racing if it isn't fun, but i guess the road thing must be fun to some people. i’m just amazed with the tangents that this thread has gone off on. lots of interesting stuff here and where it’s ended up has almost nothing to do with where it started. good stuff.

i agree that the road stuff is at least as (or more) impressive than the trail stuff. i just don’t understand why anyone would want to do it. i guess it’s just not for me but I find very little pleasure in running on the roads. i just don’t see the point in running/racing if it isn’t fun, but i guess the road thing must be fun to some people.

]]> By: CJ Hitz http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6469 CJ Hitz Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:32:30 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6469 Mackey is also insane downhills Mackey is also insane downhills

]]> By: CJ Hitz http://karlmeltzer.com/2009/10/time-to-grind-it-out/#comment-6468 CJ Hitz Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:29:20 +0000 http://karlmeltzer.com/?p=907#comment-6468 Karl, you're correct regarding Carpenter being the faster downhiller. I was thinking Bernie had a quicker Pikes Peak downhill time this year than Matt. Matt's descent was 1:24:58, Bernie's was 1:30:18. Matt simply crushes the field on the uphill which is why they call him "The Lung". Karl, you’re correct regarding Carpenter being the faster downhiller. I was thinking Bernie had a quicker Pikes Peak downhill time this year than Matt. Matt’s descent was 1:24:58, Bernie’s was 1:30:18. Matt simply crushes the field on the uphill which is why they call him “The Lung”.

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